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1891/24 CARCANO CARBINE 6.5X52

1891/24 CARCANO CARBINE 6.5X52


 
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Just arrived from Europe!

Carcano 1891/24 Carbines Now Available at RTI! Chambered in 6.5x52 Carcano. All carbines are in very good to excellent condition and are 100% operational and shootable. These carbines came from storage in Europe and are in great shape. We offer a hand select fee of $50.00 for overall condition of these carbines. These carbines have much more bluing than the carbines that came out of Ethiopia, as shown by the photos above. The stocks are in great shape on these guns, but they may have small scratches, dings, and handling wear as they are at least 70-100 years old. Upper handguards are in great condition, but may have a very small crack in front of the rear sight. Most upper handguards do not have a crack. Upper handguard may be slightly loose fitting. Bores are generally good, but are not guaranteed at standard price. May or may not include original cleaning rod. Original cleaning rods can be purchased in addition to a rifle over the phone for $24.95.

These Carcano carbines require an en-bloc clip to load the magazine. We offer reproduction clips for sale here: https://www.royaltigerimports.com/product-p/carcanoclip0002.htm

Some Background Information on the 1891 Carcano Rifle & Carbine Series:

A series of Italian bolt-action, magazine-fed, repeating military rifles and carbines. Introduced in 1891, this rifle was chambered for the rimless 6.5×52mm Carcano cartridge (Cartuccia Modello 1895). It was developed by the chief technician Salvatore Carcano at the Turin Army Arsenal in 1890 and called the Modello (model) 91 or simply M91. Successively replacing the previous Vetterli-Vitali rifles and carbines in 10.35×47mmR, it was produced from 1892 to 1945. The M91 was used in both rifle (fucile) and shorter-barreled carbine (moschetto) form by most Italian troops during the First World War and by Italian and some German forces during the Second World War. The rifle was also used during the Winter War by Finland, and again by regular and irregular forces in Syria, Libya, Tunisia, and Algeria during various postwar conflicts in those countries.

The Type I Carcano rifle was produced by Italy for the Japanese Empire prior to World War II. After the invasion of China, all Arisaka production was required for use of the Imperial Army, so the Imperial Navy contracted with Italy for this weapon in 1937. The Type I is based on the Type 38 rifle and uses a Carcano action, but retains the Arisaka/Mauser type 5-round box magazine. The Type I was used primarily by Japanese Imperial Naval Forces and was chambered for the Japanese 6.5×50mm Arisaka cartridge. Approximately 60,000 Type I rifles were produced by Italian arsenals for Japan.

Although this rifle is often called "Mannlicher–Carcano", especially in American parlance, neither that designation nor the name "Mauser–Parravicino" is correct. Its official designation in Italian is simply Modello 1891, or M91 ("il novantuno"). The magazine system uses en bloc charger clips which were originally developed and patented by Ferdinand Mannlicher, but the actual shape and design of the Carcano clip is derived from the German Model 1888 Commission Rifle.

Until 1938, all M91 rifles and carbines were chambered for the rimless 6.5×52mm Modello 1895 cartridge, using a round-nose metal case bullet of 160 grains weight at approximately 2,000-2,400 ft/s muzzle velocity, depending upon barrel length. At least one small arms authority noted inconsistencies in powder types in arsenal-loaded 6.5×52mm military ammunition, often with different powder types and ammunition lots intermixed within a single clip of ammunition.[1] The practice of intermixing powder types and ammunition lots in clipped rifle ammunition was generally avoided by arsenals of other nations, as it frequently resulted in varying bullet velocities and excessive bullet dispersion on the target.

After reports of inadequate performance at both short and long ranges[2][3] during the campaigns in Italian North Africa (1924-1934), and the Second Italo-Abyssinian War (1934), the Italian army introduced a new short rifle in 1938, the Modello 1938, together with a new cartridge in 7.35×51mm caliber. In addition to the slightly larger caliber, Italian ordnance designers introduced a spitzer-type bullet for the new cartridge, with the tip filled with aluminum to produce an unstable (tumbling) projectile upon impact in soft tissue (a design most likely copied from the .303 British Mk VII bullet).

However, the Italian government was unable to successfully mass-produce the new arms in adequate quantities before the onset of war, and in 1940, all rifle and ammunition production reverted to 6.5 mm, but no 7.35 mm Mod. 38 rifles nor carbines were ever re-barreled to the old 6.5×52mm caliber. Some Italian troops serving on the Russian front were armed with 7.35 mm Mod. 1938 rifles, but exchanged them in 1942 for 6.5×52 mm arms.[4]

Model 91 Bayonet

Approximately 94,500 7.35mm Modello 1938 rifles were shipped to Finland, where they were known as Terni carbines (from the Terni stamp with the royal crown, the logo or seal of the Regia fabbrica d’armi di Terni arsenal where they were manufactured).[5] They were primarily used by security and line-of-communications troops during the Winter War of 1939–1940, though some frontline troops were issued the weapon.[5] According to reports, the Finns disliked the rifle.[5] With its non-standard 7.35 mm caliber, it was problematic to keep frontline troops supplied with good quality, or any ammunition at all, and its non-adjustable rear sight (fixed for 200 m) made it ill-suited for use in precision shooting at the varied ranges encountered by Finnish soldiers during the conflict.[5] Despite this, it's worth noticing that the Finns themselves modified the fixed optics on the rifle to operate from a range of 200 m to only 150 m.[6] Whenever possible, Finnish soldiers discarded the weapon in favor of rifles acquired on the battlefield,[5] including standard models of captured Soviet-made Mosin–Nagant rifles. The latter had the advantage of using commonly available 7.62×54mmR ammunition. By the outbreak of the Continuation War, the remaining Mod. 1938 7.35 mm rifles were issued to the Finnish Navy, as well as anti-aircraft, coastal defense, and other second-line (home front) troops.[5]

In 1941, the Italian military returned to a long-barrelled infantry rifle once again (slightly shorter than the original M91), the Carcano M91/41.[7] True sniper versions never existed, but in World War I a few rifles were fitted with telescopic lenses and issued for service use (World War II scoped rifles were strictly prototypes).

Several lots of Moschetti M91/38 TS (special troops' carbines) were chambered for the German 8×57mm Mauser sS heavy ball round. This modification entered service in 1943, just before the Italian capitulation.[7] Two small batches of Moschetti M91/38 TS carbines shows barrels marked 1938 and 1941, but they were not used at these times with any Italian forces, and their peculiar serial numbering suggests that these might just be rebored unused surplus barrels that were converted with other ones after 1945. Many 7.92 mm Carcano carbines were apparently exported to Egypt after World War II, where they served as drill and training carbines. Several also bear Israeli armed forces markings. The occasionally used model moniker "Model 1943 (M43)" for these converted 7.92mm rifles is wrong, as they were never so designated by the Italian military.[citation needed]

German forces captured large quantities of Carcanos after Italy's capitulation in September 1943. It was the most commonly issued rifle to the German Volkssturm ("People's Militia") units in late 1944 and 1945.[8]

After World War II, Italy replaced its Carcano rifles first with British Lee–Enfields and then with the US .30 caliber (7.62 mm) M1 Garand semi-automatic rifle,[7] which the Italians labeled the 'Model 1952 (M52). Finland sold all of its approximately 74,000 remaining 7.35 mm M91/38 Carcano rifles on the surplus market. As a consequence, large quantities of surplus Carcanos were sold in the United States and Canada beginning in the 1950s. In Italy, the Polizia di Stato and the Carabinieri retained the Moschetto 38 TS,[7] retiring it from service in 1981. Captured 6.5mm Carcano rifles were used by Greek forces post-war, with ammunition supplied by U.S. Western Cartridge Co. Some were also converted to 6.5×54mm Mannlicher–Schönauer, one of the standard cartridges of the Greek military at the time.

During the Libyan Civil War in 2011, many rebels went into battle with their personally-owned weapons, including old bolt-action rifles and shotguns. Of these, Carcano-style rifles and carbines have been the most frequently observed style of bolt-action rifle. They were predominantly used by rebels in the Nafusa Mountains. These old weapons saw combat once again due to the rebels' limited access to modern firearms. Additionally, some Libyan rebels preferred to use their familiar hunting weapons over the more modern, yet unfamiliar, assault rifles available.[9][10] According to Al-Fitouri Muftah, a member of the rebel military council overseeing the western mountain front, as many as 1 in 10 rebels in the region were armed with World War II-era weapons.[11]

Variants[edit]

All variants used the same Carcano bolt action, fed by an en-bloc clip; the rifles and carbines had different barrel lengths and differences in stocks and sights depending on barrel length.[12][13] As noted in the introduction, the word moschetto means literally "musket" but was used generally by Italian arms makers as a descriptor of Italian 20th century rifles, often shorter-barrelled rifles in the carbine style meant for other than regular infantry uses. Regular length infantry rifles are named as fucile models.

• Fucile di Fanteria Modello 1891 (infantry rifle Model 1891, detachable knife bayonet, adopted in 1891 in 6.5×52mm caliber) 30.7 inch barrel.[14]

• Moschetto da Cavalleria (cavalry carbine) Mod. 91 (6.5×52mm carbine with integral folding bayonet, adopted in 1893) 17.7 inch barrel.[15]

• Moschetto per Truppe Speciali Mod. 91 (or 6.5×52mm M91 TS, carbine for special troops; TS = Truppe Speciali). These included machine gun, mortar and motorcycle crews, adopted 1897) 17.7 inch barrel.[14] Both sling swivels are mounted below the stock and barrel ring, where they are visible from both sides of the rifle.

• Moschetto di Fanteria (infantry carbine rifle) Mod. 91/24 (6.5×52mm carbine, modification of the original Mod. 1891 with shortened barrel and altered rearsight blade, adopted in 1924) 17.7 inch barrel.[14]

• Moschetto per Truppe Speciali Mod. 91/28 (lightly altered M 91 6.5×52mm carbine, adopted in 1928) 17.7 inch barrel.[14]

• Moschetto per Truppe Speciali con Tromboncino (con Tromboncino, with grenade launcher) Mod. 91/28 (modified 91/28 coupled with a 38.5 mm grenade launcher) 17.7 inch barrel.

• Fucile di Fanteria Mod. 1938 ("infantry rifle" Model 1938, adopted in 1938 in 7.35×51mm caliber, fixed sights, detachable folding knife bayonet) 20.9 inch barrel.[14]

Carcano Model 1891/38 Infantry rifle

• Moschettos (carbines) Mod. 1938 (folding bayonet) and Mod. 1938 TS (detachable bayonet) carbine versions of Model 1938 short rifle in 7.35×51mm, 17.7 inch barrel.

• Fucile di Fanteria Mod. 91/38 (Model 1938 "infantry rifle" chambered in 6.5×52mm caliber since 1940). The barrel is the 20.9 inch barrel of the earlier 7.35 mm caliber, but now changed to 6.5 mm. Unlike the slightly shorter and lighter TS Moschetto, it also has both sling swivels on the left side of the stock, not visible from the right side of the rifle, identifying it as a Fucile di Fanteria type. This is the model (stamped "1940" to show manufacture date) owned by Lee Harvey Oswald and determined to be the John F. Kennedy assassination rifle. From 1940, the Moschetto Mod. 1938 and Mod. 1938 TS were also made in 6.5×52mm.

• Fucile di Fanteria Mod. 91/41 (6.5×52mm "infantry rifle" adopted in 1941, adjustable sights), 27.2 inch barrel.[14]

• Type I Rifle (6.5×50mm infantry rifle, produced for export to Japan, adjustable sights)


Average Rating: Average Rating: 4.5 of 5 4.5 of 5 Total Reviews: 9 Write a review »

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5 of 5 1891/24 December 7, 2022
Reviewer: Connor from Idaho  
About what I expected, bore is excellent albeit filthy before cleaning. Cosmetically fine, missing a cleaning rod and has a very small hairline crack behind the action, not big enough to be concerning but worth mentioning. Shipping was surprisingly fast compared to the last time I bought something from RTI so it seems like they've become more efficient. Overall not a bad purchase for the price but expect some wear and grime, also would have liked an En-Bloc to be included with the rifle.

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2 of 5 Not worth the 299$ November 19, 2022
Reviewer: Lancaster from Poland, ME United States  
Just got my 1891/24 in. Condition is supposed to be "very good to excellent" well mine was not. Broken swing swivels, 4inch cracked stock, very beat up stock (very bad). Would rate at fair - good, not very good or excellent. Overall disappointed from RTI. This is the second time I've ordered a rifle from them that's not even remotely close to the picture. Please be warned.

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5 of 5 1891/24 September 5, 2022
Reviewer: Shane B from Kansas  
Bought one of this with the last few they got in a couple weeks ago.  Over all this was was in pretty good shape for as old as it is. It was missing the cleaning rod and has a little damage to the stock right in front of the barrel band. Bore was in great shape and still slugs out to “factory “specs.  Couldn’t be happier for the price and over all condition.

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5 of 5 Satisfied after missing part replaced December 27, 2020
Reviewer: Randy R from Springfield, Missouri  
I bought one of these that was not the poor condition gunsmith special but that item is no longoer available for review so I thought I would do it here...
The one I received was listed to be in fair to good shootable condition which it certainly is...
The wood and metal finish are worn like you would expect but the rifle is plenty serviceable and the bore is still pretty good...
My only complaint was the cleaning rod was missing which was not mentioned in the description and also the front sling swivel was broken off in the barrel band which I felt was unacceptable for the condition described...
After contacting RTI with my concerns they shipped me a cleaning rod and replacement barrel band and sling swivel at no cost so now I can say I am completely happy with the purchase...

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4 of 5 Good Value for Price! October 21, 2020
Reviewer: Jonathan Sosebee from Canton , GA United States  
I received my Carcano (prior to Gunsmith Special) and I have to admit I’m still quite glad I did. While this rifle has definitely seen some use and abuse in its life, it is still serviceable and shootable! The bore only had a few minor spots in it, with relatively good rifling, and while the exterior was worn & had plenty of rust, almost all of it was taken off with some TLC and Barricade Rust Protectant. Bolt was grimy, but cleaned up nicely, 100% intact bolt lugs, and the interior of the receiver was in similar state, very good for a 102 year old carbine! Definitely a good rifle, if any more come in id probably grab another! Bonus points for very clean AOI stamp on the Buttstock, speaks to the history of this rifle!

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