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1891/24 CARCANO CARBINE 6.5X52 Fair Condition

1891/24 CARCANO CARBINE 6.5X52


 
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We have a few 91/24 carbines left in stock. They are in fair condition. They might have a minor crack in the handguard. May have small cracks in the stock and will have typical dings, dents, scratches, etc. Overall they will clean up nicely, but do need some light work. We also have the antique option, only 1 available as of 8/22/2022 for $449.99. Please call if you would like to purchase this antique carbine. These are the last of the 91/24 carbines!

The Model 1891/24 rifle is a product of the modernization process in the Italian army which utilized the old WW1 full length rifles and shortened them into carbines. The condition is fair. This carbine is a must for every serious collector of Italian small arms. May not include original cleaning rod. Original cleaning rods can be purchased in addition to a rifle over the phone for $24.95.

Original very rare Carcano Model 1891/24 carbine. These carbines are used and show their history. These are military rifles which have served in WW1, Italy and finally in Ethiopia. You can expect some battle scars and wear.

The Carcano Carbines are complete and functional. The guns have seen extensive combat. Stocks have dents, dings, scratches, gouges, and show signs of handling and storage. Further concerning the stocks, most stocks are solid but some may have small cracks and/or in some cases even a little trench art. We have not found any that are broken or unsafe to use as these have all been sorted. You can expect a piece of history which has a tremendous historical and collector value.

The rifles have varies degrees of finish. Some guns have excessive wear, some have up to 50% of original finish.

We do offer a hand select in which we will pick the best of 10 from any particular group. There is a $50.00 hand-select fee involved.

Some stocks may possibly have trench art (field carvings). Others may have some silver thumb tags resembling a cross. Remember that Ethiopia’s population is 50% Christian and 50% Muslim.

As a Parts of our pre delivery inspection we cycle the bolt and the trigger is pulled to check for dry fire function. I have no doubt that all of these rifles will function properly. However, as with all surplus firearms, it is important to follow all safety protocols before firing.

Important Safety Warning - Please note, as with any surplus firearm we advise that you have the rifle inspected by a competent gunsmith before firing. In addition, all cosmoline needs to be thoroughly cleaned from the firearm... especially from the bore, the gas system, trigger group and the bolt group and special care needs to be taken to ensure that the firing pin moves freely within the lower bolt.

The positive about of the Carcano carbines ...

These are C & R Eligible

You will receive a true piece of history which has seen extensive service on varies theaters.

They are historically significant and make a fine addition to any collection.....


History of the Carcano Model 1891 Rifle:

A series of Italian bolt-action, magazine-fed, repeating military rifles and carbines. Introduced in 1891, this rifle was chambered for the rimless 6.5×52mm Carcano cartridge (Cartuccia Modello 1895). It was developed by the chief technician Salvatore Carcano at the Turin Army Arsenal in 1890 and called the Modello (model) 91 or simply M91. Successively replacing the previous Vetterli-Vitali rifles and carbines in 10.35×47mmR, it was produced from 1892 to 1945. The M91 was used in both rifle (fucile) and shorter-barreled carbine (moschetto) form by most Italian troops during the First World War and by Italian and some German forces during the Second World War. The rifle was also used during the Winter War by Finland, and again by regular and irregular forces in Syria, Libya, Tunisia, and Algeria during various postwar conflicts in those countries.

Although this rifle is often called "Mannlicher–Carcano", especially in American parlance, neither that designation nor the name "Mauser–Parravicino" is correct. Its official designation in Italian is simply Modello 1891, or M91 ("il novantuno"). The magazine system uses en bloc charger clips which were originally developed and patented by Ferdinand Mannlicher, but the actual shape and design of the Carcano clip is derived from the German Model 1888 Commission Rifle.

Until 1938, all M91 rifles and carbines were chambered for the rimless 6.5×52mm Modello 1895 cartridge, using a round-nose metal case bullet of 160 grains weight at approximately 2,000-2,400 ft/s muzzle velocity, depending upon barrel length. At least one small arms authority noted inconsistencies in powder types in arsenal-loaded 6.5×52mm military ammunition, often with different powder types and ammunition lots intermixed within a single clip of ammunition.[1] The practice of intermixing powder types and ammunition lots in clipped rifle ammunition was generally avoided by arsenals of other nations, as it frequently resulted in varying bullet velocities and excessive bullet dispersion on the target.

After reports of inadequate performance at both short and long ranges[2][3] during the campaigns in Italian North Africa (1924-1934), and the Second Italo-Abyssinian War (1934), the Italian army introduced a new short rifle in 1938, the Modello 1938, together with a new cartridge in 7.35×51mm caliber. In addition to the slightly larger caliber, Italian ordnance designers introduced a spitzer-type bullet for the new cartridge, with the tip filled with aluminum to produce an unstable (tumbling) projectile upon impact in soft tissue (a design most likely copied from the .303 British Mk VII bullet).

However, the Italian government was unable to successfully mass-produce the new arms in adequate quantities before the onset of war, and in 1940, all rifle and ammunition production reverted to 6.5 mm, but no 7.35 mm Mod. 38 rifles nor carbines were ever re-barreled to the old 6.5×52mm caliber. Some Italian troops serving on the Russian front were armed with 7.35 mm Mod. 1938 rifles, but exchanged them in 1942 for 6.5×52 mm arms.[4]

Model 91 Bayonet

Approximately 94,500 7.35mm Modello 1938 rifles were shipped to Finland, where they were known as Terni carbines (from the Terni stamp with the royal crown, the logo or seal of the Regia fabbrica d’armi di Terni arsenal where they were manufactured).[5] They were primarily used by security and line-of-communications troops during the Winter War of 1939–1940, though some frontline troops were issued the weapon.[5] According to reports, the Finns disliked the rifle.[5] With its non-standard 7.35 mm caliber, it was problematic to keep frontline troops supplied with good quality, or any ammunition at all, and its non-adjustable rear sight (fixed for 200 m) made it ill-suited for use in precision shooting at the varied ranges encountered by Finnish soldiers during the conflict.[5] Despite this, it's worth noticing that the Finns themselves modified the fixed optics on the rifle to operate from a range of 200 m to only 150 m.[6] Whenever possible, Finnish soldiers discarded the weapon in favor of rifles acquired on the battlefield,[5] including standard models of captured Soviet-made Mosin–Nagant rifles. The latter had the advantage of using commonly available 7.62×54mmR ammunition. By the outbreak of the Continuation War, the remaining Mod. 1938 7.35 mm rifles were issued to the Finnish Navy, as well as anti-aircraft, coastal defense, and other second-line (home front) troops.[5]

In 1941, the Italian military returned to a long-barrelled infantry rifle once again (slightly shorter than the original M91), the Carcano M91/41.[7] True sniper versions never existed, but in World War I a few rifles were fitted with telescopic lenses and issued for service use (World War II scoped rifles were strictly prototypes).

Several lots of Moschetti M91/38 TS (special troops' carbines) were chambered for the German 8×57mm Mauser sS heavy ball round. This modification entered service in 1943, just before the Italian capitulation.[7] Two small batches of Moschetti M91/38 TS carbines shows barrels marked 1938 and 1941, but they were not used at these times with any Italian forces, and their peculiar serial numbering suggests that these might just be rebored unused surplus barrels that were converted with other ones after 1945. Many 7.92 mm Carcano carbines were apparently exported to Egypt after World War II, where they served as drill and training carbines. Several also bear Israeli armed forces markings. The occasionally used model moniker "Model 1943 (M43)" for these converted 7.92mm rifles is wrong, as they were never so designated by the Italian military.[citation needed]

German forces captured large quantities of Carcanos after Italy's capitulation in September 1943. It was the most commonly issued rifle to the German Volkssturm ("People's Militia") units in late 1944 and 1945.[8]

After World War II, Italy replaced its Carcano rifles first with British Lee–Enfields and then with the US .30 caliber (7.62 mm) M1 Garand semi-automatic rifle,[7] which the Italians labeled the 'Model 1952 (M52). Finland sold all of its approximately 74,000 remaining 7.35 mm M91/38 Carcano rifles on the surplus market. As a consequence, large quantities of surplus Carcanos were sold in the United States and Canada beginning in the 1950s. In Italy, the Polizia di Stato and the Carabinieri retained the Moschetto 38 TS,[7] retiring it from service in 1981. Captured 6.5mm Carcano rifles were used by Greek forces post-war, with ammunition supplied by U.S. Western Cartridge Co. Some were also converted to 6.5×54mm Mannlicher–Schönauer, one of the standard cartridges of the Greek military at the time.

During the Libyan Civil War in 2011, many rebels went into battle with their personally-owned weapons, including old bolt-action rifles and shotguns. Of these, Carcano-style rifles and carbines have been the most frequently observed style of bolt-action rifle. They were predominantly used by rebels in the Nafusa Mountains. These old weapons saw combat once again due to the rebels' limited access to modern firearms. Additionally, some Libyan rebels preferred to use their familiar hunting weapons over the more modern, yet unfamiliar, assault rifles available.[9][10] According to Al-Fitouri Muftah, a member of the rebel military council overseeing the western mountain front, as many as 1 in 10 rebels in the region were armed with World War II-era weapons.[11]


Average Rating: Average Rating: 4.5 of 5 4.5 of 5 Total Reviews: 7 Write a review »

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5 of 5 1891/24 September 5, 2022
Reviewer: Shane B from Kansas  
Bought one of this with the last few they got in a couple weeks ago.  Over all this was was in pretty good shape for as old as it is. It was missing the cleaning rod and has a little damage to the stock right in front of the barrel band. Bore was in great shape and still slugs out to “factory “specs.  Couldn’t be happier for the price and over all condition.

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5 of 5 Satisfied after missing part replaced December 27, 2020
Reviewer: Randy R from Springfield, Missouri  
I bought one of these that was not the poor condition gunsmith special but that item is no longoer available for review so I thought I would do it here...
The one I received was listed to be in fair to good shootable condition which it certainly is...
The wood and metal finish are worn like you would expect but the rifle is plenty serviceable and the bore is still pretty good...
My only complaint was the cleaning rod was missing which was not mentioned in the description and also the front sling swivel was broken off in the barrel band which I felt was unacceptable for the condition described...
After contacting RTI with my concerns they shipped me a cleaning rod and replacement barrel band and sling swivel at no cost so now I can say I am completely happy with the purchase...

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4 of 5 Good Value for Price! October 21, 2020
Reviewer: Jonathan Sosebee from Canton , GA United States  
I received my Carcano (prior to Gunsmith Special) and I have to admit I’m still quite glad I did. While this rifle has definitely seen some use and abuse in its life, it is still serviceable and shootable! The bore only had a few minor spots in it, with relatively good rifling, and while the exterior was worn & had plenty of rust, almost all of it was taken off with some TLC and Barricade Rust Protectant. Bolt was grimy, but cleaned up nicely, 100% intact bolt lugs, and the interior of the receiver was in similar state, very good for a 102 year old carbine! Definitely a good rifle, if any more come in id probably grab another! Bonus points for very clean AOI stamp on the Buttstock, speaks to the history of this rifle!

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5 of 5 Good product / wonderful Customer service September 21, 2020
Reviewer: craig Simpkins from Dallas, Texas  
Rifle was receive on Friday. The box was well packed, thank you. I checked the rifle looks to be good condition. Just a few minor cracks that I can repair. Dirty as was expected, should clean up well. Thank you for the excellent customer service.


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5 of 5 Nice rifle September 4, 2020
Reviewer: Rich from Wisconsin  
I got one that is in good condition. The bore is pretty much shoot out,  but there is still some rifling. The crown is gone and a VERY DIRTY BORE. But the rifle has the stepped barrel, which means the middle section was removed and the twist gain was kept.  Built in Terni in 1915 then remade into the carbine at Terni in 1928! As a reloader I will slug the barrel and get some bullets to fit and it should shoot good. The exposed finish is gone, under the wood is very nice bluing. No pitting, the stock has some kind of silver tacks pounded into it and you can see holes where some must have fell out or been removed! I was thinking of doing a restore, but with the tacks on the stock Im going to leave it as is. Thanks royal tiger import! great find!

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